1 00:00:23,050 --> 00:00:20,190 [Music] 2 00:00:25,810 --> 00:00:23,060 hello and welcome to the show this is 3 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:25,820 Martin Willis and on the everything else 4 00:00:32,530 --> 00:00:28,330 show and I'm pretty excited we have 5 00:00:33,490 --> 00:00:32,540 Teddy had Jessica me if hopefully I 6 00:00:36,010 --> 00:00:33,500 pronounced that okay 7 00:00:39,549 --> 00:00:36,020 she is coming right up now if you search 8 00:00:42,340 --> 00:00:39,559 the Dyatlov pass incident her website 9 00:00:45,460 --> 00:00:42,350 comes up number two versus wikipedia and 10 00:00:47,380 --> 00:00:45,470 then number two is her website she's 11 00:00:48,970 --> 00:00:47,390 done a lot of research into this and 12 00:00:51,689 --> 00:00:48,980 we're gonna be talking to her today to 13 00:00:54,850 --> 00:00:51,699 me after being in russia for several 14 00:00:57,340 --> 00:00:54,860 visits over there I've become fascinated 15 00:01:00,390 --> 00:00:57,350 with this case a number of years ago 16 00:01:02,740 --> 00:01:00,400 actually prior to my visit to Russia 17 00:01:04,660 --> 00:01:02,750 because it's just such a mystery and 18 00:01:06,399 --> 00:01:04,670 there are so many interesting theories 19 00:01:10,899 --> 00:01:06,409 we're going to be talking about all that 20 00:01:12,820 --> 00:01:10,909 and also I got a an email from Paul 21 00:01:14,980 --> 00:01:12,830 Stonehill who's done some research into 22 00:01:19,090 --> 00:01:14,990 that and I'm gonna talk a little bit 23 00:01:21,790 --> 00:01:19,100 about one of one of his thoughts that he 24 00:01:25,630 --> 00:01:21,800 has heard out there that is also very 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:25,640 interesting so without further ado we'll 26 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:28,250 come on with our guest hello Teddy how 27 00:01:34,990 --> 00:01:33,530 are you hi muffin good oh thank you for 28 00:01:36,910 --> 00:01:35,000 having me 29 00:01:39,460 --> 00:01:36,920 now let me just see what's going on here 30 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:39,470 let me just adjust a couple things so 31 00:01:46,930 --> 00:01:43,970 for the for the listener who has not 32 00:01:50,950 --> 00:01:46,940 heard of the Dyatlov pass incident can 33 00:01:57,130 --> 00:01:50,960 you explain exactly what happened back 34 00:02:00,700 --> 00:01:57,140 in 1959 well I really doubt these our 35 00:02:03,310 --> 00:02:00,710 listeners have never heard of the art of 36 00:02:06,670 --> 00:02:03,320 path length I can't really I mean it's 37 00:02:12,190 --> 00:02:06,680 like trying to drink from a fire house 38 00:02:16,619 --> 00:02:12,200 fire hose if I have to explain the case 39 00:02:20,890 --> 00:02:16,629 okay in 1959 10 hikers started from 40 00:02:24,940 --> 00:02:20,900 started from Adele and for a two-week 41 00:02:27,220 --> 00:02:24,950 trip hiking trip which was in end of 42 00:02:30,070 --> 00:02:27,230 January beginning they were planning to 43 00:02:31,390 --> 00:02:30,080 come back in February so it was in the 44 00:02:35,679 --> 00:02:31,400 middle of weather it was 45 00:02:38,050 --> 00:02:35,689 Caeser that behavior nori so they had to 46 00:02:42,460 --> 00:02:38,060 carry everything with them and with the 47 00:02:44,740 --> 00:02:42,470 ski to go to mount otorten which is not 48 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:44,750 so high where all is not a very high 49 00:02:50,740 --> 00:02:47,810 mountain range it's one thousand two 50 00:02:54,429 --> 00:02:50,750 three four idly with me there's high 51 00:02:56,229 --> 00:02:54,439 otorten there go well they started and 52 00:02:59,440 --> 00:02:56,239 they never came back 53 00:03:01,869 --> 00:02:59,450 so um that I mean a lot of things happen 54 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:01,879 in the mountain that's not so weird but 55 00:03:08,740 --> 00:03:06,170 the way they were found so far for 58 56 00:03:10,420 --> 00:03:08,750 years there is no theory that can 57 00:03:13,479 --> 00:03:10,430 explain everything that happened well 58 00:03:16,449 --> 00:03:13,489 what happened on the 12th of February 59 00:03:18,670 --> 00:03:16,459 when they were expect that nobody was 60 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:18,680 surprised that they too long their tree 61 00:03:25,270 --> 00:03:19,930 because of the weather and everything 62 00:03:27,879 --> 00:03:25,280 then on the 28th 21st the search and 63 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:27,889 rescue parties were sent 64 00:03:33,399 --> 00:03:30,889 they found the tent it was not covered 65 00:03:37,569 --> 00:03:33,409 with avalanche or anything I mean it was 66 00:03:39,879 --> 00:03:37,579 visible and then the weird thing started 67 00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:39,889 from the tent because they were tracing 68 00:03:47,710 --> 00:03:45,049 the barefoot people going not in a panic 69 00:03:51,670 --> 00:03:47,720 just walking towards the the nearby 70 00:03:56,259 --> 00:03:51,680 forest on the slope down like one mile 71 00:03:59,559 --> 00:03:56,269 down and when they went there they found 72 00:04:02,110 --> 00:03:59,569 the first bodies next to a fire I mean 73 00:04:04,990 --> 00:04:02,120 camp fire a little fire but the fire and 74 00:04:08,619 --> 00:04:05,000 they were almost in their underwear and 75 00:04:12,339 --> 00:04:08,629 without any Footwear so they kept 76 00:04:14,259 --> 00:04:12,349 searching so far they were not alone the 77 00:04:16,930 --> 00:04:14,269 next three bodies that they found showed 78 00:04:19,659 --> 00:04:16,940 some more troubling injuries like 79 00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:19,669 self-defense injuries and small cracks 80 00:04:26,290 --> 00:04:23,510 in the so they still didn't well they 81 00:04:29,140 --> 00:04:26,300 were very it was strange that they were 82 00:04:32,860 --> 00:04:29,150 without their clothes without jacket 83 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:32,870 without having any any footwear but when 84 00:04:38,610 --> 00:04:35,690 they found finally two months later the 85 00:04:43,060 --> 00:04:38,620 remaining for this is when the mystery 86 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:43,070 just blew up because the last four had 87 00:04:49,690 --> 00:04:45,530 injuries that no human can 88 00:04:52,630 --> 00:04:49,700 cause and they were found in a snow hole 89 00:04:54,820 --> 00:04:52,640 in a den when they were absolutely 90 00:04:58,870 --> 00:04:54,830 capable to survive the night would take 91 00:05:03,910 --> 00:04:58,880 whatever happened that night and nobody 92 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:03,920 can tell why couldn't they hmm do it I 93 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:07,690 mean they were killed in a very sadistic 94 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:12,290 way and but the weird thing is that 95 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:15,170 nothing can cause this injuries on the 96 00:05:21,610 --> 00:05:19,130 last four and no theory so far can 97 00:05:24,250 --> 00:05:21,620 explain how all these injuries occur I 98 00:05:27,970 --> 00:05:24,260 mean though we're talking about repr 99 00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:27,980 fractures on a flail chest and the 100 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:33,110 school is caked in a horrible way that's 101 00:05:37,870 --> 00:05:35,330 not the butt of an automatic weapon or 102 00:05:41,710 --> 00:05:37,880 anything that caused this this injuries 103 00:05:45,910 --> 00:05:41,720 and missing eyeballs and ripped out 104 00:05:48,850 --> 00:05:45,920 tongue of one of the the girls and all 105 00:05:51,370 --> 00:05:48,860 around were scattered clothes and 106 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:51,380 branches I mean they were prepared to 107 00:05:56,340 --> 00:05:53,090 spend the night and survive but 108 00:05:59,770 --> 00:05:56,350 obviously something caught on them and 109 00:06:02,560 --> 00:05:59,780 also there is radioactive clothes and 110 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:02,570 some of them which also depends the 111 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:04,570 mystery so there are so many 112 00:06:09,610 --> 00:06:07,370 speculations and people are intrigued of 113 00:06:12,370 --> 00:06:09,620 all this this is because nobody can give 114 00:06:16,540 --> 00:06:12,380 a full theory and answer all of the 115 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:16,550 questions actually the most the mystery 116 00:06:21,610 --> 00:06:18,770 is what happened at the tent why did 117 00:06:23,950 --> 00:06:21,620 they get out the way they did without 118 00:06:27,430 --> 00:06:23,960 their clothes but not in a panic in a 119 00:06:30,910 --> 00:06:27,440 very or ordered wait on the own accord 120 00:06:33,010 --> 00:06:30,920 they just start walking in a line down 121 00:06:34,810 --> 00:06:33,020 the hill down the slope and then what 122 00:06:39,850 --> 00:06:34,820 happened in the den with the last four 123 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:39,860 obviously it was one big trouble that 124 00:06:45,220 --> 00:06:42,290 chased them but it started in one way 125 00:06:48,070 --> 00:06:45,230 and then kept chasing them until it 126 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:48,080 killed all of them now the strange thing 127 00:06:57,670 --> 00:06:51,410 to is first of all if they did this in 128 00:07:10,330 --> 00:07:02,710 all right okay just work on your 129 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:10,340 adjustment there and yes I do okay so 130 00:07:17,500 --> 00:07:13,310 the strangest thing to me is first of 131 00:07:21,100 --> 00:07:17,510 all they they cut themselves out of the 132 00:07:22,930 --> 00:07:21,110 tent and they go out you know here's 133 00:07:25,900 --> 00:07:22,940 here's a place where they could survive 134 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:25,910 you know almost any weather and now they 135 00:07:30,670 --> 00:07:28,610 put themselves out to the elements they 136 00:07:33,250 --> 00:07:30,680 cut themselves out of the tent and for 137 00:07:34,330 --> 00:07:33,260 me to hear you say they walked in an 138 00:07:37,180 --> 00:07:34,340 orderly way 139 00:07:40,570 --> 00:07:37,190 it's very strange why they wouldn't take 140 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:40,580 at least clothing with them yeah we we 141 00:07:45,850 --> 00:07:43,010 don't know if they cut themselves out of 142 00:07:48,460 --> 00:07:45,860 the tent first of all all of the knives 143 00:07:51,390 --> 00:07:48,470 that we know that they had the three 144 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:51,400 finnish knives and the a proof 145 00:07:58,390 --> 00:07:54,650 pocketknife were found back in the tent 146 00:08:00,460 --> 00:07:58,400 they must have had more knives because 147 00:08:03,159 --> 00:08:00,470 they could the branches down in the 148 00:08:07,690 --> 00:08:03,169 forest when they mated the den and in 149 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:07,700 the fire firewood but no lives were 150 00:08:13,839 --> 00:08:11,210 found so I don't think they cut I mean 151 00:08:16,990 --> 00:08:13,849 that's the once I mean the first weird 152 00:08:20,770 --> 00:08:17,000 the point was the tent was cooked from 153 00:08:23,469 --> 00:08:20,780 inside that's true but I don't think 154 00:08:26,650 --> 00:08:23,479 they could the 10 and none of the you 155 00:08:29,020 --> 00:08:26,660 know researchers that in the book Center 156 00:08:31,870 --> 00:08:29,030 Keating who is the you know he's the god 157 00:08:34,779 --> 00:08:31,880 thing in the research about this 158 00:08:37,810 --> 00:08:34,789 incident nobody believes that they did 159 00:08:39,579 --> 00:08:37,820 it themselves I mean no matter that's I 160 00:08:42,820 --> 00:08:39,589 mean we're not talking about them 161 00:08:44,980 --> 00:08:42,830 growing nuts from infrasound or 162 00:08:47,290 --> 00:08:44,990 believing that there is the avalanche or 163 00:08:49,810 --> 00:08:47,300 us on the other side of the tent and 164 00:08:53,500 --> 00:08:49,820 they try to escape from the D side of 165 00:08:55,660 --> 00:08:53,510 the pack everybody can take the time to 166 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:55,670 get out from the entrance of the tent 167 00:09:00,820 --> 00:08:57,290 and that will take much less time than 168 00:09:03,610 --> 00:09:00,830 cutting in all the way the tent was cut 169 00:09:06,069 --> 00:09:03,620 I have a theory I mean it's not a theory 170 00:09:08,860 --> 00:09:06,079 I can improvise and speculate how this 171 00:09:11,170 --> 00:09:08,870 happened I mean later on in the 172 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:11,180 conversation if you want me to oh yeah 173 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:13,250 I mean with all the research you've been 174 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:17,510 doing I would would love to hear well I 175 00:09:21,220 --> 00:09:18,890 want to go through all the different 176 00:09:23,500 --> 00:09:21,230 theories and and why people came up with 177 00:09:29,190 --> 00:09:23,510 them you know I mean there is anything 178 00:09:33,820 --> 00:09:29,200 from Yeti to UFOs to this gravitational 179 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:33,830 situation you know it's it's yeah the 180 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:35,810 gravity tunnel I know I have them all on 181 00:09:44,410 --> 00:09:41,930 the side yeah yeah now so there's also 182 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:44,420 signs that they try to climb up a tree 183 00:09:50,380 --> 00:09:46,970 like 15 feet or something like that 5 184 00:09:52,450 --> 00:09:50,390 meters up a tree that's very much I mean 185 00:09:54,730 --> 00:09:52,460 yeah something was chasing them out of 186 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:54,740 the tent okay let me let me tell you my 187 00:10:00,790 --> 00:09:57,890 scenario I mean I haven't really did 188 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:00,800 research all I need is that there was so 189 00:10:06,340 --> 00:10:03,730 much information online that I kept 190 00:10:08,260 --> 00:10:06,350 bookmarking it and then trying to figure 191 00:10:10,390 --> 00:10:08,270 out what happened because I looked about 192 00:10:12,190 --> 00:10:10,400 yeah too fast like two years ago and I 193 00:10:12,910 --> 00:10:12,200 couldn't believe I haven't heard about 194 00:10:15,910 --> 00:10:12,920 it before 195 00:10:18,250 --> 00:10:15,920 and I said yeah this is wanting to learn 196 00:10:19,750 --> 00:10:18,260 what happened and this is how I start to 197 00:10:21,460 --> 00:10:19,760 decide because first because I'm about 198 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:21,470 designer but second because I wanted for 199 00:10:29,170 --> 00:10:25,130 myself to just have in one one place all 200 00:10:33,580 --> 00:10:29,180 the information that I can dig up and I 201 00:10:35,740 --> 00:10:33,590 mean basically later on there is a new 202 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:35,750 book week about the zolturi off camera 203 00:10:40,900 --> 00:10:38,450 okay one of the four people that were 204 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:40,910 found last in the in the den had the 205 00:10:45,070 --> 00:10:43,490 camera around his surname right and that 206 00:10:49,660 --> 00:10:45,080 wasn't the camera that he was carrying 207 00:10:52,990 --> 00:10:49,670 before while throughout the the hike 208 00:10:55,630 --> 00:10:53,000 that is the second camera and when they 209 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:55,640 develop initially the the negatives 210 00:10:59,650 --> 00:10:58,130 nobody paid attention to the negatives 211 00:11:00,880 --> 00:10:59,660 of this camera because he they were can 212 00:11:04,270 --> 00:11:00,890 see the damaged thing because they were 213 00:11:09,250 --> 00:11:04,280 very small white things on the on the on 214 00:11:12,940 --> 00:11:09,260 the photos they found my scenario of 215 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:12,950 what happened around the tent is that do 216 00:11:19,620 --> 00:11:14,330 you hear me nothing 217 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:19,630 yep we're all set I I have yeah okay 218 00:11:26,819 --> 00:11:23,290 darn computers okay 219 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:26,829 ah do you is it so bad if we continue on 220 00:11:31,949 --> 00:11:28,810 this speakerphone because I think my 221 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:31,959 head had said it's something is wrong 222 00:11:35,850 --> 00:11:33,850 with okay just just connect it if you 223 00:11:37,499 --> 00:11:35,860 can hear me just go ahead and just 224 00:11:46,740 --> 00:11:37,509 connect it will see how the feedback is 225 00:11:52,199 --> 00:11:46,750 I can hear you yes okay because two of 226 00:11:54,449 --> 00:11:52,209 the people people and yeah people and so 227 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:54,459 they love were better dressed they had 228 00:11:59,970 --> 00:11:55,569 some kind of footwear 229 00:12:01,920 --> 00:11:59,980 I mean not the shoes that you go to the 230 00:12:04,530 --> 00:12:01,930 snow but Valentin which is the inner 231 00:12:07,829 --> 00:12:04,540 shoe and they said that they were chases 232 00:12:11,129 --> 00:12:07,839 of you mean self somebody went out to 233 00:12:13,620 --> 00:12:11,139 release themselves so we speculate that 234 00:12:16,590 --> 00:12:13,630 these were the two man that went out and 235 00:12:20,460 --> 00:12:16,600 there were always some kind of event 236 00:12:23,069 --> 00:12:20,470 like lights and things in the sky that's 237 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:23,079 very normal but very usual for the 238 00:12:30,030 --> 00:12:26,110 Arctic and for this latitude altitude 239 00:12:34,079 --> 00:12:30,040 the latitude their own or some like 240 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:34,089 Lincoln even sound sounds very good that 241 00:12:40,139 --> 00:12:36,970 they're not weird for do awful people so 242 00:12:42,180 --> 00:12:40,149 you know you terrific just one second um 243 00:12:45,329 --> 00:12:42,190 when you removed your headset the 244 00:12:47,550 --> 00:12:45,339 microphone changed so it's hard it's 245 00:12:52,860 --> 00:12:47,560 just okay that's better me yep 246 00:12:56,460 --> 00:12:52,870 okay I can hear you no okay so I think 247 00:12:59,009 --> 00:12:56,470 he went in to just get his camera to 248 00:13:01,800 --> 00:12:59,019 take some photos of what was in the sky 249 00:13:04,379 --> 00:13:01,810 and he called the rest of the the the 250 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:04,389 the members of the group just to see 251 00:13:09,269 --> 00:13:06,490 what see in the sky that's why I got 252 00:13:11,790 --> 00:13:09,279 them out without any clothes because it 253 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:11,800 was disappearing in the the the the 254 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:13,930 shots he made with his camera were 255 00:13:20,519 --> 00:13:17,290 lasting about a minute or a minute and a 256 00:13:22,499 --> 00:13:20,529 half so I mean it's very natural to to 257 00:13:24,389 --> 00:13:22,509 bring people from inside the tent in 258 00:13:25,889 --> 00:13:24,399 their underwear because they were just 259 00:13:28,439 --> 00:13:25,899 relaxing there and they wanted to see 260 00:13:31,879 --> 00:13:28,449 what's in this time and there are traces 261 00:13:34,259 --> 00:13:31,889 of steps of people that are just 262 00:13:36,270 --> 00:13:34,269 standing up next to each other they're 263 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:36,280 not talking they're not doing any 264 00:13:40,890 --> 00:13:38,650 they're just in a line and one of the 265 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:40,900 shots of the three of us camera shows 266 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:43,930 three the top of tree heads it's like 267 00:13:49,950 --> 00:13:46,930 he's making a shot at something that's 268 00:13:52,620 --> 00:13:49,960 above the the people in front of him in 269 00:13:54,660 --> 00:13:52,630 the sky so if they were just looking at 270 00:13:56,850 --> 00:13:54,670 the sky they were all out in their 271 00:13:59,400 --> 00:13:56,860 underwear in what I think would happen 272 00:14:02,040 --> 00:13:59,410 is that somebody was watching them for a 273 00:14:04,770 --> 00:14:02,050 while and they just took the opportunity 274 00:14:07,530 --> 00:14:04,780 while everybody was out and just pointed 275 00:14:11,010 --> 00:14:07,540 guns on them and told them march down 276 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:11,020 die freeze or something I mean they just 277 00:14:17,220 --> 00:14:13,930 wanted that dead but initially they 278 00:14:20,250 --> 00:14:17,230 didn't beat them back I mean there is 279 00:14:22,740 --> 00:14:20,260 one theory that maybe through buildings 280 00:14:27,690 --> 00:14:22,750 decide something because the Krakens his 281 00:14:29,850 --> 00:14:27,700 Co was caused very early in the that 282 00:14:33,030 --> 00:14:29,860 night events and maybe he was going down 283 00:14:34,860 --> 00:14:33,040 with that crap because he died first so 284 00:14:39,150 --> 00:14:34,870 maybe they were not voluntarily just 285 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:39,160 agreeing to to go and die from in there 286 00:14:45,660 --> 00:14:41,770 in the woods but I think they were out 287 00:14:46,590 --> 00:14:45,670 when somebody marched them down so we 288 00:14:52,829 --> 00:14:46,600 have there ever been 289 00:14:53,940 --> 00:14:52,839 additional footprints can you turn your 290 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:53,950 volume down just a little bit please 291 00:14:59,130 --> 00:14:56,890 have there ever been additional 292 00:15:06,329 --> 00:14:59,140 footprints found that would have would 293 00:15:08,730 --> 00:15:06,339 collaborate this theory the scene was 294 00:15:11,700 --> 00:15:08,740 very contaminated I mean nobody was 295 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:11,710 expecting to find them dead so when they 296 00:15:16,470 --> 00:15:14,170 found the tent they all rushed and start 297 00:15:21,300 --> 00:15:16,480 you know digging up things and even 298 00:15:27,990 --> 00:15:21,310 cutting the tent so we do have one print 299 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:28,000 of a shoe with a hill so but with the 300 00:15:31,650 --> 00:15:29,890 shoe of one of the researchers or not 301 00:15:37,079 --> 00:15:31,660 I mean for sure everybody was 302 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:37,089 photographing the the bare faces but 303 00:15:43,079 --> 00:15:38,890 nobody was paying attention of the shoe 304 00:15:46,590 --> 00:15:43,089 if there are any other traces around so 305 00:15:49,590 --> 00:15:46,600 it's a very contaminated the feeling to 306 00:15:53,460 --> 00:15:49,600 start with there is 307 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:53,470 there are no traces of skis but I don't 308 00:15:58,290 --> 00:15:55,930 believe that the the skis will leave for 309 00:16:00,720 --> 00:15:58,300 traces in the same way the feet did 310 00:16:02,430 --> 00:16:00,730 because we have all seen I mean I 311 00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:02,440 believe our listeners have seen the 312 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:06,160 raised footsteps which were preserved 313 00:16:09,900 --> 00:16:08,170 only because they melted part of the 314 00:16:14,730 --> 00:16:09,910 snow one because the winds were not so 315 00:16:16,620 --> 00:16:14,740 strong so they just the the shoes 316 00:16:19,499 --> 00:16:16,630 wouldn't leave the same this is the same 317 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:19,509 traces no they were not found I mean to 318 00:16:23,550 --> 00:16:21,310 answer your question all of the 319 00:16:26,069 --> 00:16:23,560 researchers researchers have said that 320 00:16:28,110 --> 00:16:26,079 there are no footprints whatsoever 321 00:16:31,499 --> 00:16:28,120 nothing around which you know makes it 322 00:16:34,590 --> 00:16:31,509 weird but it doesn't mean that they were 323 00:16:41,430 --> 00:16:34,600 not it would they just weren't found any 324 00:16:43,290 --> 00:16:41,440 okay no no yeah getting feedback so are 325 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:43,300 you able to turn your speaker's down a 326 00:16:50,340 --> 00:16:47,110 little my sneakers yep just turned the 327 00:16:55,110 --> 00:16:50,350 volume down a little on those so one 328 00:16:57,509 --> 00:16:55,120 that Paul Stonehill sent me it was one 329 00:17:02,360 --> 00:16:57,519 of the theories as it was a KGB 330 00:17:07,130 --> 00:17:02,370 operation to disseminate CIA agents and 331 00:17:11,399 --> 00:17:07,140 some of them persisted in the team where 332 00:17:13,919 --> 00:17:11,409 I'm just trying to trying to understand 333 00:17:16,140 --> 00:17:13,929 what he's saying here but also that some 334 00:17:19,380 --> 00:17:16,150 other tourists perished in that area 335 00:17:22,829 --> 00:17:19,390 later are you familiar with other 336 00:17:24,390 --> 00:17:22,839 tourists yeah I don't think other 337 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:24,400 tourists perish there I mean recently 338 00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:27,010 there was somebody that froze 12 miles 339 00:17:31,470 --> 00:17:29,440 or kilometres from there but that's not 340 00:17:32,909 --> 00:17:31,480 a surprise it's the mountains I mean of 341 00:17:35,570 --> 00:17:32,919 course people died in the mountain 342 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:35,580 especially they're stupid to go along I 343 00:17:41,430 --> 00:17:39,130 haven't heard of any tourists I heard of 344 00:17:43,710 --> 00:17:41,440 an airplane with nine passengers that 345 00:17:49,860 --> 00:17:43,720 crash there and other things like that 346 00:17:52,020 --> 00:17:49,870 but no tourists okay alright so I'm 347 00:17:59,190 --> 00:17:52,030 still getting feedback so this is so 348 00:18:00,720 --> 00:17:59,200 anyway what do you think of all the 349 00:18:02,980 --> 00:18:00,730 different theories you know right away 350 00:18:04,630 --> 00:18:02,990 you'll see 351 00:18:06,490 --> 00:18:04,640 the debunker is saying that it was 352 00:18:09,220 --> 00:18:06,500 simply an avalanche that crushed the 353 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:09,230 tent you know I mean there's so many 354 00:18:15,190 --> 00:18:13,250 holes in that theory especially when it 355 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:15,200 comes to the injuries that were 356 00:18:19,750 --> 00:18:17,450 sustained away from there it's not an 357 00:18:22,870 --> 00:18:19,760 avalanche I mean what happened happened 358 00:18:25,389 --> 00:18:22,880 in three different steps first around 359 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:25,399 the tent tent around then around the 360 00:18:32,169 --> 00:18:29,090 fire then in the in the den I mean the 361 00:18:35,740 --> 00:18:32,179 tent wasn't covered with snow the slope 362 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:35,750 is not remotely dangerous for avalanches 363 00:18:41,919 --> 00:18:39,289 this theories just doesn't deserve the 364 00:18:44,380 --> 00:18:41,929 time right right right 365 00:18:47,710 --> 00:18:44,390 but let's let's talk about some of the 366 00:18:49,210 --> 00:18:47,720 possibilities you know you you kind of 367 00:18:51,159 --> 00:18:49,220 talked about what you thought may have 368 00:18:54,870 --> 00:18:51,169 happened but what about some of the 369 00:18:59,529 --> 00:18:54,880 other possibilities of for instance 370 00:19:01,419 --> 00:18:59,539 military operations that would kind of 371 00:19:05,610 --> 00:19:01,429 dovetail with what you were talking 372 00:19:09,639 --> 00:19:05,620 about that there are force down the hill 373 00:19:11,620 --> 00:19:09,649 what was that would be similar to what 374 00:19:17,230 --> 00:19:11,630 you were talking about that they were 375 00:19:19,659 --> 00:19:17,240 forced to go down the hill okay I which 376 00:19:22,769 --> 00:19:19,669 actually I was thinking today well 377 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:22,779 because I was expecting our conversation 378 00:19:30,149 --> 00:19:25,730 it's nothing new in what I can say 379 00:19:33,820 --> 00:19:30,159 everybody knows that the whatever was 380 00:19:35,710 --> 00:19:33,830 chasing them first they thought they got 381 00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:35,720 away that's why they started the fire 382 00:19:42,130 --> 00:19:39,710 then whatever was in the tent and we 383 00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:42,140 think it ripped out the tent from inside 384 00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:44,720 so they can only not return because they 385 00:19:49,810 --> 00:19:47,120 were trying to make these people dead by 386 00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:49,820 you know freezing out and they were 387 00:19:54,700 --> 00:19:52,240 staying in the tent 388 00:19:57,310 --> 00:19:54,710 looking through the holes they did and 389 00:20:01,480 --> 00:19:57,320 then they saw the fire down the slope 390 00:20:03,130 --> 00:20:01,490 which was only a kilometer down and they 391 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:03,140 said oh man we have to go and kill them 392 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:05,450 again because this you know that they're 393 00:20:10,659 --> 00:20:08,450 gonna survive so they go down some of 394 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:10,669 the the hikers hide around in the woods 395 00:20:17,380 --> 00:20:13,450 and they know that the 396 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:17,390 whatever is chasing that it's not Blanc 397 00:20:24,190 --> 00:20:19,250 putting the tent that's why three of 398 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:24,200 them tried to go you know up to the tent 399 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:26,930 and therefore hitting the forest we know 400 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:29,210 that the they came back to take some 401 00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:32,690 clothes of their dead friends the two 402 00:20:39,490 --> 00:20:34,910 around the fire - sanguine cocoon shank 403 00:20:41,260 --> 00:20:39,500 oh so that that was not a one time this 404 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:41,270 was the military they will just shoot 405 00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:45,050 them in that they're just very damning 406 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:47,230 closed coffin saying that you know 407 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:50,090 something poison them that they will 408 00:20:56,980 --> 00:20:52,730 make their parents sign that they will 409 00:21:00,970 --> 00:20:56,990 never say anything about the case I mean 410 00:21:03,070 --> 00:21:00,980 that's a very strong government there I 411 00:21:04,570 --> 00:21:03,080 mean they can do whatever they want if 412 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:04,580 it was the military it will be all 413 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:07,850 secret the fact that all of the photos 414 00:21:13,540 --> 00:21:10,490 are public and all of them you know the 415 00:21:16,570 --> 00:21:13,550 case everybody was putting their no 416 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:16,580 single in this in this case the only 417 00:21:22,780 --> 00:21:19,690 reason they closed the area and they 418 00:21:26,110 --> 00:21:22,790 banned all of the hives for four years 419 00:21:27,730 --> 00:21:26,120 because the the military themselves they 420 00:21:30,130 --> 00:21:27,740 didn't know what's going on and what 421 00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:30,140 caused them to die because yes they had 422 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:33,440 some tests going on there but they 423 00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:36,410 weren't I mean this is not how you die 424 00:21:42,670 --> 00:21:39,440 if you come across a rocket or something 425 00:21:45,820 --> 00:21:42,680 that thing was chasing them down in the 426 00:21:48,250 --> 00:21:45,830 forest getting angrier that that they're 427 00:21:50,890 --> 00:21:48,260 not dying the I mean that they have to 428 00:21:54,460 --> 00:21:50,900 spend a whole night killing them 429 00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:54,470 basically and the Army has bullets they 430 00:22:00,160 --> 00:21:56,720 will kill them and bury them and nobody 431 00:22:02,350 --> 00:22:00,170 will find them well so what type of 432 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:02,360 people would you imagine would be doing 433 00:22:13,420 --> 00:22:10,250 this well statistically if mousie or 434 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:13,430 County I mean which is a little bit of 435 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:18,050 different people they're not Massey but 436 00:22:23,150 --> 00:22:20,450 they live there they're even more 437 00:22:26,630 --> 00:22:23,160 secluded than the Mansi if there 438 00:22:30,110 --> 00:22:26,640 when these places must be them because 439 00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:30,120 KGB agents or whatever they will just 440 00:22:35,210 --> 00:22:32,400 kill with weapons obviously they had 441 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:35,220 weapons because the nine hikers were in 442 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:39,510 the best shape on being they were in top 443 00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:42,450 form and they were very I mean their 444 00:22:48,140 --> 00:22:45,840 character was not that they will be 445 00:22:52,610 --> 00:22:48,150 afraid they will jump their attackers I 446 00:22:55,460 --> 00:22:52,620 mean those had to be our people and not 447 00:22:58,100 --> 00:22:55,470 only one I mean they must have I think 448 00:23:01,220 --> 00:22:58,110 laughs even all said that they had to 449 00:23:02,660 --> 00:23:01,230 beat and armed people to overcome them 450 00:23:04,790 --> 00:23:02,670 the way they did because there is no 451 00:23:08,900 --> 00:23:04,800 sign of struggle or anything I mean if 452 00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:08,910 you if your time people and somebody 453 00:23:13,910 --> 00:23:11,280 they tell you don't go down the slope 454 00:23:17,150 --> 00:23:13,920 agree just say okay okay we'll go down I 455 00:23:20,060 --> 00:23:17,160 mean they will try to fight it back so I 456 00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:20,070 imagine that somebody must have had our 457 00:23:27,230 --> 00:23:22,710 I mean weapon but I don't know if they 458 00:23:31,460 --> 00:23:27,240 had a munitions because they never shot 459 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:31,470 any anything they could have had weapons 460 00:23:36,290 --> 00:23:33,330 but without ammunition that's why they 461 00:23:39,250 --> 00:23:36,300 killed him the way they did I'm I cannot 462 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:39,260 speculate why they killed them I think 463 00:23:45,020 --> 00:23:42,570 that they didn't know how to handle the 464 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:45,030 situation because they wanted them dead 465 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:49,170 but they persisted not dying I mean they 466 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:51,440 they would have survived the night and 467 00:24:01,810 --> 00:23:54,090 they could go back to the storage way 468 00:24:05,630 --> 00:24:01,820 they had food and everything so they can 469 00:24:07,970 --> 00:24:05,640 take care of the situation meditated I 470 00:24:10,610 --> 00:24:07,980 think somebody was watching them and it 471 00:24:13,340 --> 00:24:10,620 was really hostile and really crazy and 472 00:24:15,820 --> 00:24:13,350 I still cannot explain how they killed 473 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:15,830 that you know three of the last four 474 00:24:22,270 --> 00:24:18,210 members that died in the in the den 475 00:24:26,270 --> 00:24:22,280 because those factors must have become 476 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:26,280 they can be only caused by a very high 477 00:24:34,250 --> 00:24:31,050 velocity trauma by a pressure like from 478 00:24:36,330 --> 00:24:34,260 a blast or if you fall from seven floor 479 00:24:40,159 --> 00:24:36,340 I mean 480 00:24:44,010 --> 00:24:40,169 hi building like yes I heard because 481 00:24:47,010 --> 00:24:44,020 jumping on their chest even if they were 482 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:47,020 you know having some substances like a 483 00:24:51,409 --> 00:24:48,490 fly idiotic or anything like that 484 00:24:54,419 --> 00:24:51,419 because this is the plan and sauce 485 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:54,429 theory because first of all to achieve 486 00:25:00,450 --> 00:24:57,970 if that high of a jump you have to do it 487 00:25:02,940 --> 00:25:00,460 from a firm man you cannot do it from a 488 00:25:08,490 --> 00:25:02,950 soft snow I mean you can only kick 489 00:25:10,529 --> 00:25:08,500 somebody and then you can kill person by 490 00:25:13,250 --> 00:25:10,539 kicking him in the face much faster than 491 00:25:17,250 --> 00:25:13,260 jumping and also they said there is one 492 00:25:21,210 --> 00:25:17,260 blow it's not some little blows that 493 00:25:24,090 --> 00:25:21,220 there are not particles of the other of 494 00:25:26,460 --> 00:25:24,100 the ribs so it must be one blow that 495 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:26,470 calls this a flail chest and the 496 00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,010 multiple fracture line a trauma well so 497 00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:32,320 this cannot be just somebody kicking 498 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:36,510 them in the face that's what I mean if 499 00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:38,890 somebody could explain how this might 500 00:25:43,710 --> 00:25:41,440 happen it we wouldn't be talking for 60 501 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:43,720 years about that and it's getting more 502 00:25:51,149 --> 00:25:44,890 and more interesting the more you 503 00:25:54,180 --> 00:25:51,159 breathe the more because I cannot 504 00:25:57,180 --> 00:25:54,190 explain the dangerous I mean around the 505 00:25:59,370 --> 00:25:57,190 10th is really mysterious but you know 506 00:26:01,470 --> 00:25:59,380 people walking in there barefoot and 507 00:26:03,659 --> 00:26:01,480 somebody kissing the time from inside ok 508 00:26:05,610 --> 00:26:03,669 so it can happen but I cannot explain 509 00:26:07,919 --> 00:26:05,620 what happened in the back in the den 510 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:07,929 because all the theories that they get 511 00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:10,090 falling on their heads and causing this 512 00:26:16,049 --> 00:26:13,120 case is closed the problem is that there 513 00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:16,059 is no outside bruising maceration or 514 00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:18,640 whatsoever so the only thing that can 515 00:26:25,860 --> 00:26:21,760 cause that is a high-velocity trauma or 516 00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:25,870 a pressure or something it's nobody can 517 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:28,480 cause that by kicking or you know 518 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:31,330 beating with the wood piece or something 519 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:33,970 like that right they don't have any 520 00:26:39,149 --> 00:26:36,610 bruises they were thought that they were 521 00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:39,159 just frozen until they cut them open 522 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:42,159 because they didn't have any any signs 523 00:26:49,890 --> 00:26:45,370 of the injuries in sight injuries that 524 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:49,900 they suffer right now that I guess so 525 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:54,130 yes the Mansi natives they they're not 526 00:27:03,000 --> 00:26:57,250 actually themselves known for violence 527 00:27:06,690 --> 00:27:03,010 right they didn't want anybody to be 528 00:27:08,940 --> 00:27:06,700 truth or to I mean to touch them they 529 00:27:11,270 --> 00:27:08,950 didn't want to attract attention I mean 530 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:11,280 that the Soviets could so easily just 531 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:15,130 exterminate them and just not allow them 532 00:27:20,580 --> 00:27:17,410 to name their children to speak their 533 00:27:23,130 --> 00:27:20,590 language to declare their gang the 534 00:27:27,090 --> 00:27:23,140 hunting that the you know all of the 535 00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:27,100 animals that they cannot no longer hunt 536 00:27:31,770 --> 00:27:28,990 them and everything they didn't want to 537 00:27:33,570 --> 00:27:31,780 attract any attention so some people 538 00:27:36,390 --> 00:27:33,580 said well they achieved it because they 539 00:27:37,710 --> 00:27:36,400 closed the area for four years but not 540 00:27:39,530 --> 00:27:37,720 the way they did because they were 541 00:27:42,450 --> 00:27:39,540 flooded with you know all the 542 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:42,460 interrogations and the people started 543 00:27:49,020 --> 00:27:45,210 looking at them they didn't need that 544 00:27:51,030 --> 00:27:49,030 and all the sacred places and mountains 545 00:27:53,460 --> 00:27:51,040 and so on that you know people talk 546 00:27:56,330 --> 00:27:53,470 about I don't believe there was anything 547 00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:56,340 around there that was um 548 00:28:02,490 --> 00:27:58,960 sacred the masa people said that there 549 00:28:06,450 --> 00:28:02,500 is nothing there and not exactly where 550 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:06,460 they went and all the talk about don't 551 00:28:14,130 --> 00:28:08,650 go there but they don't finish the 552 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:14,140 question it's one month see hunter said 553 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:16,810 they came to me and they asked me if I 554 00:28:20,790 --> 00:28:18,850 can we shook can we see the maps and how 555 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:20,800 is this area and can you advise us what 556 00:28:24,780 --> 00:28:23,050 to do and where to go and he said don't 557 00:28:26,370 --> 00:28:24,790 go there because they're crevices and 558 00:28:28,410 --> 00:28:26,380 holes covered with snow when you will 559 00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:28,420 fall and also there is wait why would 560 00:28:34,550 --> 00:28:31,840 you go there in this case because we're 561 00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:34,560 covering category three about you know 562 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:38,320 we're going to get licenses and whatever 563 00:28:41,580 --> 00:28:40,570 and he said oh so you want to make it 564 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:41,590 difficult okay go 565 00:28:46,410 --> 00:28:43,330 here is my map here is when the the 566 00:28:48,210 --> 00:28:46,420 forest ends but just be aware that there 567 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:48,220 are crevices and holes that worry you 568 00:28:54,210 --> 00:28:50,770 can befall that's why I don't go there 569 00:28:56,730 --> 00:28:54,220 is because it's a windy and it's 570 00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:56,740 difficult and dangerous not because 571 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:00,000 they're gods or spirits or whatever and 572 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:02,770 the legends about the nine 573 00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:05,170 see hunters that disappear or died 574 00:29:16,410 --> 00:29:09,600 mysterious way are not confirmed also I 575 00:29:19,919 --> 00:29:16,420 want to mention that the Dalton 576 00:29:23,370 --> 00:29:19,929 it's not called don't go there it's 577 00:29:25,950 --> 00:29:23,380 actually a goose nice mountain or a 578 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:25,960 windy mountain one or the or the other 579 00:29:31,799 --> 00:29:28,090 and whole lotta Hill 580 00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:31,809 it's not it's AIT's a dead mountain but 581 00:29:36,690 --> 00:29:33,910 it's not because people died there would 582 00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:36,700 be because nothing grows on the slopes 583 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:40,960 and I I kept calling mountain of the 584 00:29:47,010 --> 00:29:44,410 Dead my page just because for obvious 585 00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:47,020 reasons because the people we are 586 00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:49,360 researching just died there otherwise on 587 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:51,400 the map I'm calling it that mountain the 588 00:29:56,549 --> 00:29:53,650 way the locals named it 589 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:56,559 now I had a conversation with mike 590 00:30:02,460 --> 00:29:57,250 libecki 591 00:30:04,140 --> 00:30:02,470 who did he was in the Russian Yeti the 592 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:04,150 killer lives 593 00:30:09,210 --> 00:30:06,850 I'm sure you've watched that and he 594 00:30:19,620 --> 00:30:09,220 actually admitted to me that a lot of 595 00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:19,630 that was not so accurate how can he say 596 00:30:24,510 --> 00:30:22,000 that he traveled all the way there just 597 00:30:26,610 --> 00:30:24,520 to see the piece of paper where they say 598 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:26,620 now we know the Yeti lives I mean this 599 00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:30,370 is the flyer that was a humoristic you 600 00:30:37,620 --> 00:30:33,760 know the piece of paper when they were 601 00:30:40,410 --> 00:30:37,630 talking about making jokes this is one 602 00:30:42,570 --> 00:30:40,420 of the jokes on this piece of paper and 603 00:30:46,110 --> 00:30:42,580 he spent all this money oh I must go 604 00:30:48,299 --> 00:30:46,120 there and I must we confirmed that's 605 00:30:50,130 --> 00:30:48,309 true I mean come on this is like getting 606 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:50,140 a budget for a movie and you have to 607 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:52,330 come up with something yeah I think 608 00:30:59,370 --> 00:30:55,290 that's basically what it boiled down to 609 00:31:03,930 --> 00:30:59,380 because he would he was kind of alluding 610 00:31:05,419 --> 00:31:03,940 to the fact that it was it was done not 611 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:05,429 so authentically 612 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:09,690 which I thought I was quiet at least 613 00:31:13,629 --> 00:31:12,610 yeah they made the big deal of the the 614 00:31:17,409 --> 00:31:13,639 photo with the 615 00:31:18,999 --> 00:31:17,419 yeah okay this film was taken out the 616 00:31:21,430 --> 00:31:19,009 out of the camera this is the last shot 617 00:31:23,529 --> 00:31:21,440 of a film that's true but it was just 618 00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:23,539 there because the film ended and then 619 00:31:29,199 --> 00:31:27,200 they have diary entries after this photo 620 00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:29,209 they would have said something that they 621 00:31:35,289 --> 00:31:31,129 have seen a stranger following them 622 00:31:38,529 --> 00:31:35,299 there is a strange thing going on I can 623 00:31:40,629 --> 00:31:38,539 tell you that I can I can recognize this 624 00:31:43,869 --> 00:31:40,639 is the poster of one of them just going 625 00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:43,879 to relieve himself I mean the previous 626 00:31:49,479 --> 00:31:46,609 helps and then fooling around fully into 627 00:31:53,019 --> 00:31:49,489 snow let me ask you this does the 628 00:31:56,289 --> 00:31:53,029 original negative of this exist as far 629 00:31:57,639 --> 00:31:56,299 as you know is anyone trying to enhance 630 00:32:04,659 --> 00:31:57,649 it and see if they can get a better 631 00:32:06,639 --> 00:32:04,669 image out of it to be truthful I think 632 00:32:09,099 --> 00:32:06,649 because my favorite show the shows are 633 00:32:12,969 --> 00:32:09,109 from Forensic Files and cold cases and 634 00:32:15,969 --> 00:32:12,979 so on I mean if they just put all of 635 00:32:18,579 --> 00:32:15,979 these materials and sources through I 636 00:32:21,849 --> 00:32:18,589 really I mean like you see it on the 637 00:32:24,190 --> 00:32:21,859 cold cases I think they might find a lot 638 00:32:26,919 --> 00:32:24,200 of things but it's just because it's a 639 00:32:29,499 --> 00:32:26,929 you know Russia and all the documents 640 00:32:34,569 --> 00:32:29,509 are universal and actually nobody did 641 00:32:36,669 --> 00:32:34,579 any work to find out of course maybe FBI 642 00:32:41,409 --> 00:32:36,679 you know they they have lots to enhance 643 00:32:44,169 --> 00:32:41,419 photos but I don't think it's nobody 644 00:32:47,169 --> 00:32:44,179 does it because they don't like the 645 00:32:51,579 --> 00:32:47,179 outcome of it this is not Yeti believe 646 00:32:54,159 --> 00:32:51,589 me I mean of course I don't know who 647 00:32:56,979 --> 00:32:54,169 that is maybe then has the photo they 648 00:32:58,989 --> 00:32:56,989 can say who are the members I mean that 649 00:33:02,049 --> 00:32:58,999 could be right I think I didn't do 650 00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:02,059 something with the photo but nobody I 651 00:33:08,499 --> 00:33:04,609 mean you understand that somebody has to 652 00:33:11,589 --> 00:33:08,509 actually pay for Americans to get 653 00:33:14,769 --> 00:33:11,599 involved nobody will invite them to do 654 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:14,779 so only people that master credit tax 655 00:33:19,449 --> 00:33:17,450 and want to do a movie or a book do that 656 00:33:21,620 --> 00:33:19,459 and they don't have the resources to 657 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:21,630 enhance a negative 658 00:33:25,550 --> 00:33:23,370 I'm not really sure that they want to 659 00:33:28,670 --> 00:33:25,560 because what if you went all the way 660 00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:28,680 there he saw the flyer where it says now 661 00:33:34,490 --> 00:33:30,960 we know a Yeti exists and this is among 662 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:34,500 wannabe just like Oh a world record for 663 00:33:41,380 --> 00:33:37,610 assembly of a mobile love stove and 664 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:41,390 could nine hikers be warmed out with one 665 00:33:47,030 --> 00:33:44,850 blanket next to it is we're in the you 666 00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:47,040 know mountains where we know Yeti lives 667 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:49,830 and he didn't say anything that this is 668 00:33:56,090 --> 00:33:52,410 a job he made the movie about it do you 669 00:33:58,190 --> 00:33:56,100 think she want us to spend money to 670 00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:58,200 enhance this photo and just find out 671 00:34:02,450 --> 00:34:00,240 this is cool about to for any idea of 672 00:34:05,030 --> 00:34:02,460 the rest of the members like I can't 673 00:34:05,740 --> 00:34:05,040 exactly yeah I get exactly what you're 674 00:34:09,649 --> 00:34:05,750 saying 675 00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:09,659 what about all i from paul stone hills 676 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:11,280 note he said this is an ongoing 677 00:34:16,430 --> 00:34:14,010 investigation are you familiar with 678 00:34:24,070 --> 00:34:16,440 people that are really seriously still 679 00:34:27,379 --> 00:34:24,080 investigating this Paul Stonehill I 680 00:34:29,780 --> 00:34:27,389 don't think anybody's investigating who 681 00:34:31,850 --> 00:34:29,790 is investigating Russians or what what 682 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:31,860 nationality is investigating yeah that 683 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:34,649 that was my question for you if you were 684 00:34:41,629 --> 00:34:36,690 aware of anyone actually investigating 685 00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:41,639 currently okay can say something about 686 00:34:45,169 --> 00:34:44,639 my site and what and how I'm involved in 687 00:34:49,310 --> 00:34:45,179 this 688 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:49,320 yes unless which will end up answering 689 00:34:56,750 --> 00:34:53,010 to your question well basically I will 690 00:34:59,300 --> 00:34:56,760 see Mount horrible accident 691 00:35:04,340 --> 00:34:59,310 I'm a traveler that's what I do I just 692 00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:04,350 go places in the world so I was in the 693 00:35:10,250 --> 00:35:07,260 back of it tried going down a volcano in 694 00:35:14,090 --> 00:35:10,260 Indonesia and the brakes didn't work and 695 00:35:17,930 --> 00:35:14,100 I almost died and I have flail chest 696 00:35:20,270 --> 00:35:17,940 much like do Benina and I mean I had to 697 00:35:23,810 --> 00:35:20,280 undergo a lot of operation so for two 698 00:35:26,270 --> 00:35:23,820 years I was in now the hospital and then 699 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:26,280 is when I just happen to see that was 700 00:35:30,380 --> 00:35:26,730 fast 701 00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:30,390 and I just wanted to forget about this 702 00:35:34,490 --> 00:35:32,730 movie point and you're in my er my 703 00:35:38,450 --> 00:35:34,500 husband said you know that this 704 00:35:42,890 --> 00:35:38,460 real event and I start looking at this 705 00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:42,900 real event and I could understand what 706 00:35:48,260 --> 00:35:44,730 happened how did it happen in from the 707 00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:48,270 next like I just hope if I said 708 00:35:51,710 --> 00:35:49,920 everything that I could come across and 709 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:51,720 if I didn't like something I made my own 710 00:35:56,990 --> 00:35:53,970 graph it's my own map and I had to 711 00:36:00,500 --> 00:35:57,000 compare sources and I just the bottom 712 00:36:03,170 --> 00:36:00,510 line is only Russian sources and I 713 00:36:06,020 --> 00:36:03,180 include svitlana all Cyndi's because she 714 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:06,030 is she speaks Russian so whatever I can 715 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:08,850 see to her translation so I know what 716 00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:10,770 she needs and by the way my second name 717 00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:14,160 is Anatoly so I know Russian - my father 718 00:36:21,950 --> 00:36:19,920 was a Russian so I only now I just if 719 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:21,960 I'd read something I have to look into 720 00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:24,090 the kitchen and Salama 721 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:26,310 to repeat it on my side so basically I 722 00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:29,850 take a side and I love comments there 723 00:36:35,690 --> 00:36:33,510 and then I was done with my operation I 724 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:35,700 and I went to my next trip which was in 725 00:36:40,850 --> 00:36:38,010 South America for six months when I came 726 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:40,860 back and I traveled really wild like no 727 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:43,890 mobile devices it's no internet nothing 728 00:36:49,730 --> 00:36:46,530 I just go with the dead wish you know to 729 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:49,740 get lost and when I came back I was 730 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:52,130 surprised how many people like actually 731 00:36:57,890 --> 00:36:55,170 contribute in the phone and it's crazy 732 00:36:59,840 --> 00:36:57,900 so my site is right now I just need to 733 00:37:04,340 --> 00:36:59,850 fish out the things that they're saying 734 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:04,350 the blog there on the side in the 735 00:37:08,330 --> 00:37:06,090 comments because there's so much 736 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:08,340 information but this is only by people 737 00:37:13,700 --> 00:37:11,010 that keep reading and digging and 738 00:37:16,550 --> 00:37:13,710 excavating and complementing everything 739 00:37:19,340 --> 00:37:16,560 and they're really I love the people 740 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:19,350 that are active on my site and they 741 00:37:25,370 --> 00:37:22,170 really put the theories under scrutiny 742 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:25,380 and they contribute me new facts new 743 00:37:31,010 --> 00:37:28,530 information so I just have to process 744 00:37:33,620 --> 00:37:31,020 that information everybody can go and 745 00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:33,630 just read so much information that 746 00:37:39,530 --> 00:37:37,440 people are all around the the new thing 747 00:37:42,050 --> 00:37:39,540 is that's in English because before only 748 00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:42,060 the forum's in Russia were so rich of 749 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:46,260 information and focused in anybody 750 00:37:51,059 --> 00:37:47,690 english-speaking 751 00:37:54,130 --> 00:37:51,069 who gets involved into this they just 752 00:37:55,930 --> 00:37:54,140 write the book make a movie and close 753 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:55,940 they don't do a website with the 754 00:38:00,460 --> 00:37:57,890 information they find I want all this 755 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:00,470 public I don't have any advertisement I 756 00:38:03,940 --> 00:38:01,970 don't have any sponsors this is my 757 00:38:06,910 --> 00:38:03,950 business this is my server this is what 758 00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:06,920 I do I do it because I like the 759 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:08,960 formatting and the information to be 760 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:11,450 accessible and I will put everything 761 00:38:16,809 --> 00:38:13,490 that I find new from the comments I'll 762 00:38:18,309 --> 00:38:16,819 just put it on the on the side that's my 763 00:38:21,550 --> 00:38:18,319 goal I just want to put the information 764 00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:21,560 together so it's easy to read it and I 765 00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:24,079 have to get rid of some stupid things 766 00:38:32,650 --> 00:38:30,079 like okay a table some fracturing the 767 00:38:39,940 --> 00:38:32,660 skull which is really scared could be 768 00:38:42,750 --> 00:38:39,950 caused by him sleeping on his camera I 769 00:38:45,819 --> 00:38:42,760 copied pasted it from someplace because 770 00:38:47,980 --> 00:38:45,829 if you if you wants to publish all the 771 00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:47,990 things that are confirmed and that make 772 00:38:52,690 --> 00:38:50,720 sense there would be just photos diary 773 00:38:56,170 --> 00:38:52,700 and bland because nothing makes sense 774 00:38:58,569 --> 00:38:56,180 but things like that you know sleeping 775 00:39:00,339 --> 00:38:58,579 on your camera and the avalanche came 776 00:39:02,020 --> 00:39:00,349 over and then they dragged him to the 777 00:39:04,030 --> 00:39:02,030 den to save him and things like that I 778 00:39:05,980 --> 00:39:04,040 mean I have to get rid of this that's 779 00:39:09,099 --> 00:39:05,990 what I'm saying I don't do research at 780 00:39:11,530 --> 00:39:09,109 the moment I'm just flooded with 781 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:11,540 information witches believe me if you're 782 00:39:16,540 --> 00:39:13,490 just going to comments there is so much 783 00:39:20,380 --> 00:39:16,550 information there that I am my only role 784 00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:20,390 in this would be just to structure the 785 00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:22,400 information team ended up and just put 786 00:39:26,740 --> 00:39:24,079 it among the photos and on the entry 787 00:39:29,319 --> 00:39:26,750 Simba I mean it's because I keep track 788 00:39:31,450 --> 00:39:29,329 of all of the resources in Diablo from 789 00:39:33,490 --> 00:39:31,460 Anya I keep there all the sites I come 790 00:39:35,890 --> 00:39:33,500 across and they have some information 791 00:39:38,140 --> 00:39:35,900 I mean I'm gonna start cleaning people 792 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:38,150 that just copy paste put advertisement 793 00:39:43,809 --> 00:39:40,730 and they you know they they have one 794 00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:43,819 page for the K ace among any other 795 00:39:47,650 --> 00:39:45,680 information around and that's not 796 00:39:49,569 --> 00:39:47,660 healthy because it's copy paste if I 797 00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:49,579 thought for example that's a very small 798 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:53,920 example you using when they asked him 799 00:39:59,380 --> 00:39:56,450 nobody asked him actually but when they 800 00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:59,390 start getting the cameras and they found 801 00:40:03,770 --> 00:40:00,240 the camera 802 00:40:06,050 --> 00:40:03,780 which was like three months after they 803 00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:06,060 found the tank and the tent there were 804 00:40:08,329 --> 00:40:07,680 four cameras and then they found the 805 00:40:10,810 --> 00:40:08,339 fifth one 806 00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:10,820 now what did using said did he say oh 807 00:40:15,890 --> 00:40:13,710 they were more than four cameras or did 808 00:40:19,070 --> 00:40:15,900 he say I'm surprised that there is a 809 00:40:21,620 --> 00:40:19,080 fifth camera on the trio I mean there 810 00:40:24,050 --> 00:40:21,630 are two different sources for that be 811 00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:24,060 kidding you say that you didn't kept 812 00:40:29,570 --> 00:40:25,680 saying that there are more than four 813 00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:29,580 cameras in a sentence that's copy pasted 814 00:40:35,810 --> 00:40:33,839 twelve the internet that says of us and 815 00:40:38,180 --> 00:40:35,820 I cannot find the source of that who 816 00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:38,190 said it first but people keep copy 817 00:40:44,060 --> 00:40:40,740 pasting like how many clothes are 818 00:40:45,620 --> 00:40:44,070 radioactive people keep copying to pants 819 00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:45,630 in this weather to pants on the sweater 820 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:47,760 and this is really I mean dangerous 821 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:49,410 because if you come across for first 822 00:40:53,870 --> 00:40:51,450 time you don't go research hundreds of 823 00:40:57,500 --> 00:40:53,880 sites to just you know get the idea what 824 00:41:01,579 --> 00:40:57,510 happened this is what I do I just verify 825 00:41:04,010 --> 00:41:01,589 everything that I read you can't really 826 00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:04,020 verify it because it's a he'll say you 827 00:41:08,270 --> 00:41:05,760 know it's the only things that you can 828 00:41:11,540 --> 00:41:08,280 really verify from the Russian document 829 00:41:14,450 --> 00:41:11,550 but even in the Russian file case the 830 00:41:16,490 --> 00:41:14,460 start date is six the February I mean 831 00:41:18,859 --> 00:41:16,500 how could it be six the February they 832 00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:18,869 were expected to be back on the twelve 833 00:41:26,270 --> 00:41:22,710 they were not even you know so it's a 834 00:41:28,490 --> 00:41:26,280 mess but it's still not a mystery okay 835 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:28,500 it's just mess and then why life people 836 00:41:34,730 --> 00:41:30,570 now say the things and did the things he 837 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:34,740 did and what's that overwhelming force 838 00:41:39,170 --> 00:41:36,810 that the case was closed prematurely 839 00:41:41,420 --> 00:41:39,180 with the cause of what happened to 840 00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:41,430 damages nobody knew what happened to 841 00:41:45,980 --> 00:41:43,680 them and every was where everybody was 842 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:45,990 very deep I mean you upset about the 843 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:49,050 whole thing but they didn't had an 844 00:41:54,349 --> 00:41:51,210 explanation of what happened it's not 845 00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:54,359 the cover-up nobody has explanation how 846 00:42:01,310 --> 00:41:58,410 this injuries could because right now 847 00:42:03,859 --> 00:42:01,320 one of the things I've heard someone 848 00:42:06,380 --> 00:42:03,869 mentioned was that it was almost as if 849 00:42:09,290 --> 00:42:06,390 you said a free fall on a hard surface 850 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:09,300 or like a car accident that was very 851 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:12,210 similar to that there is a theory out 852 00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:13,650 there there red somewhere 853 00:42:17,420 --> 00:42:15,359 someone was saying it had to do with the 854 00:42:19,579 --> 00:42:17,430 way the snow melt but I don't even 855 00:42:22,970 --> 00:42:19,589 understand how what that theory have you 856 00:42:24,890 --> 00:42:22,980 ever heard that one snow melt the snow 857 00:42:27,710 --> 00:42:24,900 melt during the snow melt the injuries 858 00:42:29,779 --> 00:42:27,720 were caused I mean they were found in 859 00:42:32,450 --> 00:42:29,789 what time he already found him was it 860 00:42:38,980 --> 00:42:32,460 almost in not May but it was March right 861 00:42:58,789 --> 00:42:50,650 with the injuries yeah the last group 862 00:43:02,410 --> 00:42:58,799 yes nice all right can you say that 863 00:43:12,319 --> 00:43:07,099 when were the last time yeah here you 864 00:43:17,690 --> 00:43:12,329 know when were the last found there were 865 00:43:19,490 --> 00:43:17,700 Fault in May in May okay wasn't it and 866 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:19,500 they were found because the snow was 867 00:43:25,099 --> 00:43:22,890 melting but obviously injuries cannot be 868 00:43:27,859 --> 00:43:25,109 caused from some type of snow melt 869 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:27,869 unless unless it was you know really 870 00:43:32,839 --> 00:43:30,930 serious with I mean it doesn't make any 871 00:43:39,410 --> 00:43:32,849 sense but it's just another theory I've 872 00:43:41,210 --> 00:43:39,420 heard out there I'm just so very fine 873 00:43:43,339 --> 00:43:41,220 okay may may 5th 874 00:43:44,650 --> 00:43:43,349 I have a timeline on the homepage of 875 00:43:48,049 --> 00:43:44,660 myself 876 00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:48,059 they were they all died six to eight 877 00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:50,640 hours after the last meal and they ate 878 00:44:00,920 --> 00:43:55,920 the same thing they are so basically 879 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:00,930 they all died in the kind of lapse of 880 00:44:09,319 --> 00:44:03,650 like two hours time period of two hours 881 00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:09,329 from each other Wow good Wow yeah what 882 00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:11,730 would you think the cause of separation 883 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:14,510 of the two different groups might be 884 00:44:23,630 --> 00:44:19,770 well it's obvious that they they start 885 00:44:27,569 --> 00:44:23,640 dying two of them died I mean the first 886 00:44:31,319 --> 00:44:27,579 two died and it's uh then the 887 00:44:34,589 --> 00:44:31,329 the heat in the florist I think the 888 00:44:38,249 --> 00:44:34,599 separation was because maybe one or both 889 00:44:41,219 --> 00:44:38,259 of them were on the tree and the other 890 00:44:47,459 --> 00:44:41,229 just escaped maybe in different 891 00:44:49,410 --> 00:44:47,469 directions because the last fool or came 892 00:44:54,959 --> 00:44:49,420 back for some of the clothes of the 893 00:44:59,130 --> 00:44:54,969 first died well so basically they 894 00:45:01,680 --> 00:44:59,140 separated just because whatever changed 895 00:45:04,650 --> 00:45:01,690 them whoever whatever changed them came 896 00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:04,660 to look for them around the fire and 897 00:45:12,410 --> 00:45:07,569 they start hiding into the forest into 898 00:45:16,979 --> 00:45:12,420 the darkness till they couldn't hide and 899 00:45:19,979 --> 00:45:16,989 they died first the rest looks like they 900 00:45:21,180 --> 00:45:19,989 come back I mean three of them started 901 00:45:22,859 --> 00:45:21,190 going back to the tent 902 00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:22,869 why would they do that because the 903 00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:24,880 whatever was in the tank was no longer 904 00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:27,910 longer there so they tried to go back 905 00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:30,160 and they try out they already had two 906 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:33,609 meters I think they were beaten before 907 00:45:40,949 --> 00:45:36,729 her I mean at some point maybe around 908 00:45:43,979 --> 00:45:40,959 the fire maybe you know some of them 909 00:45:50,249 --> 00:45:43,989 even in front of the tent but they just 910 00:45:52,969 --> 00:45:50,259 scattered in heat and they didn't hide 911 00:45:55,229 --> 00:45:52,979 crawling back to the tent and before 912 00:45:58,199 --> 00:45:55,239 just escaped there I don't believe that 913 00:46:00,299 --> 00:45:58,209 they some of the scenarios say that they 914 00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:00,309 they were around the fire and they 915 00:46:06,589 --> 00:46:02,529 discussed this and they has a different 916 00:46:09,809 --> 00:46:06,599 opinion we've got to do an ankle 917 00:46:12,809 --> 00:46:09,819 abducted or maybe some governments to 918 00:46:15,689 --> 00:46:12,819 luzina wants to see whites who body was 919 00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:15,699 missing and he was already following due 920 00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:19,599 to the skull fracture and even went 921 00:46:26,549 --> 00:46:22,089 after her I don't think that was served 922 00:46:28,979 --> 00:46:26,559 I mean they deliberate if they gather 923 00:46:32,749 --> 00:46:28,989 didn't stay together it's just I think 924 00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:32,759 they had to hide well now the 925 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:35,680 interesting one is a website one of the 926 00:46:41,550 --> 00:46:38,170 last I guess it's the last theory this 927 00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:41,560 is a gravity fluctuation that's just the 928 00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:46,480 it's quite bizarre has what do you what 929 00:46:56,850 --> 00:46:48,400 do you think about that one that and 930 00:47:01,170 --> 00:46:56,860 these are scientists that people keep 931 00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:01,180 criticizing me that I have to devise the 932 00:47:07,350 --> 00:47:03,250 theories that make some sense like a 933 00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:07,360 stove and all the stuff just exploded 934 00:47:28,350 --> 00:47:17,700 yeah there's up this up there is an 935 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:28,360 issue with the microphone out and that's 936 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:31,930 how they drop the ten which is this is 937 00:47:40,170 --> 00:47:33,970 nonsense I mean it was cut with a knife 938 00:47:48,740 --> 00:47:40,180 it wasn't so yes I do yep yep 939 00:47:52,860 --> 00:47:48,750 I any weight on any of these theories so 940 00:47:54,210 --> 00:47:52,870 oh yeah we're having someone we're 941 00:48:01,590 --> 00:47:54,220 having some issues here a little bit 942 00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:01,600 keep going okay yeah it looks like it 943 00:48:08,460 --> 00:48:03,910 looks like I am having trouble here on 944 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:08,470 my end with internet so I think we're 945 00:48:13,770 --> 00:48:10,330 gonna have to I think we're gonna have 946 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:13,780 to call it a show I'm not sure what's 947 00:48:18,030 --> 00:48:15,490 going on I'm on the phone a lot with my 948 00:48:20,910 --> 00:48:18,040 cable company trying to figure out some 949 00:48:26,340 --> 00:48:20,920 issues but I see it fluctuating really 950 00:48:28,590 --> 00:48:26,350 up and down right now so anyway I have 951 00:48:32,430 --> 00:48:28,600 if you're watching on YouTube you can 952 00:48:37,290 --> 00:48:32,440 see the website I have it text up on 953 00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:37,300 there it's Dyatlov - pass calm and a 954 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:39,730 please do check it out it's actually you 955 00:48:45,390 --> 00:48:41,170 know absolutely the most comprehensive 956 00:48:49,470 --> 00:48:45,400 website on this incident and it's been a 957 00:48:52,380 --> 00:48:49,480 real pleasure thank you so much thank 958 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:52,390 you sure I appreciate your time very 959 00:49:01,090 --> 00:48:58,450 and all the blower's and searching Souls 960 00:49:05,110 --> 00:49:01,100 keep searching keep reading keep 961 00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:05,120 dreaming and keep thinking and also go 962 00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:08,510 to her website go to her website check 963 00:49:16,530 --> 00:49:10,730 it out and post up your thoughts as well 964 00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:16,540 alright take care please okay bye now 965 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:19,150 alright everyone I apologize for this 966 00:49:28,570 --> 00:49:25,130 issue with the sound and next week we 967 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:28,580 are going to be back this is a week from 968 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:32,570 today at Aetna let's see 8 o'clock we're 969 00:49:37,420 --> 00:49:35,410 going to be on or I believe it's 8 or 9 970 00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:37,430 we're going to be on with Jeffrey 971 00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:40,160 Bennett and it's about the theory of 972 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:43,040 relativity he is an astrophysicist and a 973 00:49:49,110 --> 00:49:46,010 brilliant man should be really a great